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elected leaders are saying the agency isn't prepared to respond to disasters particularly in urban areas. at the least, the congressman hopes hurricane sandy is a major wake-up call. >>neil: you putting in a long day. >>guest: hour 13 and counting. >>neil: thank you. billions in aid is requested to help with the hurricane sandy and a big chunk of that will get doled out by fema but my next guest should they get rid of the middleman and get the money directly to the victims. my guest survived san difficult but his home did not. how is it now? >>guest: we are rebuilding, starting to rebuild. i have flood insurance. people this is flood insurance are worse off. if you lost your house, you have a cap and everything that you heard from the reporter, the stalling and the delay and they didn't know how to approach the situation, because there are three million people involved, or, maybe more, from jersey all the way to long island, you had maybe eight million that could be affected and in katrina it was only 300,000 affected. how could you put a cap of 31, 31,$31,900? how do you give $31,900 in
elected leaders are saying the agency isn't prepared to respond to disasters particularly in urban areas. at the least, the congressman hopes hurricane sandy is a major wake-up call. >>neil: you putting in a long day. >>guest: hour 13 and counting. >>neil: thank you. billions in aid is requested to help with the hurricane sandy and a big chunk of that will get doled out by fema but my next guest should they get rid of the middleman and get the money directly to the victims....
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election when you saw a lot of people who just didn't believe the number, didn't want to believe it, but i think the growth in this number, the consumer confidence we've seen, some of the good trending economic data is part of the reason why barack obama won this election. consumers, job seekers are basically feeling a little bit better. the trend is good. i think that was the margin of difference here in large part for the president. >> i want to bring in our panel here and ben, you're an expert in all things related to the economy. ayman thinks these numbers have strengthened the president's hand here. i guess continuing in the vain of what's up is down and down is up, in some ways doesn't it sort of hurt the broader argument, though, from the left regarding unemployment benefits and the payroll tax cut? these are parts of the fiscal cliff negotiations we have not paid a lot of attention to, and also the white house's argument about further stimulus spending, undermined by this notion out there based on these numbers that the economy is recovering? >> yeah. i think that's right. i thin
election when you saw a lot of people who just didn't believe the number, didn't want to believe it, but i think the growth in this number, the consumer confidence we've seen, some of the good trending economic data is part of the reason why barack obama won this election. consumers, job seekers are basically feeling a little bit better. the trend is good. i think that was the margin of difference here in large part for the president. >> i want to bring in our panel here and ben, you're...
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election. now he wants to increase it to over one half trillion. he has double down on all of these things. if you go back historically in this whole program, you might remember roy reagan, $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. we get the taxes but ronald reagan never get the spending cuts. orge bush lost an ection in '92. he raised taxes on the democrats promised him $2 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. george bush is still waitin for those $2 in spending cuts. now the present is saying to live in give you two and a half to one. it's time the democrats and the president stepped up and cut spding. gerri: to that point. want you to respond to what the white house had to say in response to the republicans offer and then go to michael's point about what you will actually get latr. here is what dan pfeiffer said. it promises to lower rates for the wealthy and stickhe middle-claas with the bill. we could do it pinocchio test. is that true or false? >> completely false. they want to keeall the race the same. now lower than for anybody. and maintaining the status
election. now he wants to increase it to over one half trillion. he has double down on all of these things. if you go back historically in this whole program, you might remember roy reagan, $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. we get the taxes but ronald reagan never get the spending cuts. orge bush lost an ection in '92. he raised taxes on the democrats promised him $2 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. george bush is still waitin for those $2 in spending cuts. now...
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is a lot of stuff that's going on in this town. >> after the election of jimmy carter, he went to washington, d.c. and came back home with some bacon. >> that's right. >> that's what you do. >> the fact is this president basically i don't think wants to work with congress. >> we do not have a taxation problem. we've got a wildly out of control spending problem. >> i'll be here, and i'll be available any moment. >> we believe that despite obvious resistance to what has to be the framework of a deal here, that progress is being made. >> all of this is smoke and mirrors. all of this deficit reduction stuff, there isn't any. there aren't any spending cuts. >> greta: while democrats and republicans fight it out, the nation is waiting and waiting and waiting and suffering as they wait. former new york city mayor rudy guiliani joins us. good evening, mayor. >> how will this unravel? >> if you take them at their word, it sounds like the president is anxious to go over the fiscal cliff, and he leaves very little room for republicans to negotiate with him with a 1.7 trillion dollar tax incr
is a lot of stuff that's going on in this town. >> after the election of jimmy carter, he went to washington, d.c. and came back home with some bacon. >> that's right. >> that's what you do. >> the fact is this president basically i don't think wants to work with congress. >> we do not have a taxation problem. we've got a wildly out of control spending problem. >> i'll be here, and i'll be available any moment. >> we believe that despite obvious...
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out of elective office as a civilian than in elective office. it's a real help to the republicans in the senate because he has cost them the senate. he has done more damage to the senate and most especially to republicans in the senate than anyone else. he has backed these crazy, nutty tea parties who have gutted the republican nomination for senate in various states around the country, and then he went on to lose to democrats thereby preserving the democratic control of the senate, preserving harry he reed therei. he had become an absolute disaster within his own party. the big cheer today is in the republican caucus saying, finally, we're getting rid of our absolute craziest nut. >> very good. we congratulate them for that. another thing, lawrence, that happened today is governor bobby jindal wrote an op-ed in politico and he said, at present any reading the headlines over the past week indicates that republicans are fighting to protect the rich and cut benefits for senior. it may be possible to have worse political positioning than that, but i'm not sure how. certainly it's true t
out of elective office as a civilian than in elective office. it's a real help to the republicans in the senate because he has cost them the senate. he has done more damage to the senate and most especially to republicans in the senate than anyone else. he has backed these crazy, nutty tea parties who have gutted the republican nomination for senate in various states around the country, and then he went on to lose to democrats thereby preserving the democratic control of the senate, preserving...
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into the cake it is the result of election and elections have consequences. but on the wealthy i think the rates go up but with the latest proposal, why see enough to adhere to what was the debt commission in cuts, is too little too late, but, too little, more to the point. >>guest: it is too little. what really has to happen here, you are not going to get a good answer in the next two years. you have the groups going at it and they are not going to get it. we have do wait-and-see what happens in 2014 and there are 33 senate seats up, the democrats have 20, the republicans have 13, there are thine freshman democratic senators, see what happens. if it happened that way in 2010, if we take the senate, obama will then see the light. if you hold his feet to the fire they will feel the heat and see the light. i hope that is how it happens. >>neil: we will see what happens. do you see these? they will ruin your christmas all because unions are not budging and this stuff keeps happening, the "ship" is really going to hit the fan. [ male announcer ] kids grow up in no time... marie calle
into the cake it is the result of election and elections have consequences. but on the wealthy i think the rates go up but with the latest proposal, why see enough to adhere to what was the debt commission in cuts, is too little too late, but, too little, more to the point. >>guest: it is too little. what really has to happen here, you are not going to get a good answer in the next two years. you have the groups going at it and they are not going to get it. we have do wait-and-see what...
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revolution two years ago. egypt's first elected president, mohamed morsi wanted to bring calm with a televised address tonight. he didn't. last month morsi granted himself near-absolute power. thousands of protesters are demanding that morsi scrap a proposed new constitution that they fear will take away many of their rights. holly williams is in cairo for us tonight. holly. >> reporter: well, scott, some people here thought that after days of protest and bloodshed, president morsi would make a major concession tonight but what he did offer won't be enough theirs opponents. they wanted him to immediately give up all of the sweeping new powers that he gave himself two weeks ago and they wanted him to postpone a referendum on egypt's new constitution, which is due to take place in under 10 days' time. they say that constitution doesn't protect the rights of all egyptians. but president morsi didn't do either of these things. instead, he offered to give up just one of his new powerses, a vaguely worded right to take all necessary steps to protect the country. he said he'd give up all th
revolution two years ago. egypt's first elected president, mohamed morsi wanted to bring calm with a televised address tonight. he didn't. last month morsi granted himself near-absolute power. thousands of protesters are demanding that morsi scrap a proposed new constitution that they fear will take away many of their rights. holly williams is in cairo for us tonight. holly. >> reporter: well, scott, some people here thought that after days of protest and bloodshed, president morsi would...
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rick santorum. we have not seen him since the election. we have spoken about them, scene of you rumors about in. the new republican party. in answer, kinder party? we will find out. he will be on the job. have a good night. ♪is all the "mon" that we have for you. we found dnis kneale. "the willis report" is coming up next. gerri: tonight, the most outrageous ways that congress spends their money. wait until you hear what we have to say. welcome to "the willis report." hello, everybody. i am gerri willis. anher bailout from president obama. that is what some in detroit say they deserve for helping reelect their commander-in-chief. the city on the brink of financial collapse and will soon lay off thousands ofity workers to pay off bills. the total outstanding debt is more than a billn dollars. that is according to mdy's investor services. joann watson city councilmember, her comments are sparking controversy. she claims the president owes the city another bailout because they voted them into office. >> he went to washington dc and he came back home with some bacon. that is what you do.
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spite of our elected officials? >> yeah. there's a lot of things to do with regard to wall street and the banks pulling back a little bit on dodd frank but not letting them off the hook. i think we need restructuring on wall street so as to get banks lending again and on trade policy, yeah. i mean, i know mr. romney lost the election, but i think he was right about the need to get tough with china. i think that would help up a lot. also, we should open up more offshore areas for drilling, produce more of our own oil, those kinds of things bring down the trade deficit a lot and create the ability to deal with our deficit more reasonably and still provide for people in a more reasonable way. >> so, jared, another area of concern is republicans are now threatening to use the debt ceiling again to basically take the country hostage again. yesterday i compared the debt ceiling -- >> when you talk about the debt ceiling you get very loud. >> i get very emotional. i don't know about that. i do get very emotional. i compared it it to physicianle c fiscal syphilis yesterday. >> i heard your ra
spite of our elected officials? >> yeah. there's a lot of things to do with regard to wall street and the banks pulling back a little bit on dodd frank but not letting them off the hook. i think we need restructuring on wall street so as to get banks lending again and on trade policy, yeah. i mean, i know mr. romney lost the election, but i think he was right about the need to get tough with china. i think that would help up a lot. also, we should open up more offshore areas for...
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rasmussen poll that came out today the republicans lost 10 points since the election in the congressional generic fight. they are losing this economic argument right now. if they pull what mark is saying, you are going to see the republican party's numbers in the 20s. they have no leverage on this thing. >> not going to happen. megyn: we'll leave it at that. thank you both. just ahead. a much more somber note. new warning about the sarin gas threat in syria. city drivers claim a class action that the traffic cameras are actually rigged. soot whole world is watching and the president of the united states made clear there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. megyn: that was leon panetta with a warning that the united states and our allies will not tolerate a chemical attack by syria. we got reports that they were mixing the chemical weapons earlier this week. focusing new attention on saddam hussein's 1988 massacre of the kurds. thousands of innocent people died in that attack. many of the victim
rasmussen poll that came out today the republicans lost 10 points since the election in the congressional generic fight. they are losing this economic argument right now. if they pull what mark is saying, you are going to see the republican party's numbers in the 20s. they have no leverage on this thing. >> not going to happen. megyn: we'll leave it at that. thank you both. just ahead. a much more somber note. new warning about the sarin gas threat in syria. city drivers claim a class...
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? >> if you look at the 2012 election, apparent that the conservatives need to do more to convince americans that ideas will make the lives better. unfortunately in the senate what we have to do is point out bad policy with the president. that is important job. my background is research and marketing to people. to leverage their assets to communicate to all americans we can make their lives bette better, this is a dream job for me. klitcally important. i don't think the republicans will win another national election unless conservatives convince americans the principles will work. then libertarians and independents and democrats can embrace the conservative ideas if americans believe they're the real solutions. >> bret: what do you say to the constituents who say he was my guy? >> i am still that guy. what i have done like help elect good con seventive senators and stop bad things like earmarks is only because i've gone outside the senate to take the case to the american people to create pressure on the senate to do the right thing. i can do more at the hair tage foundation and tha
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it will. talk about what is going on now here first. you know, the president won the election. he campaigned on the basis of higher rates for the taxpayer income earners. no surprise. the republicans are asking shocked that the president is taking a tough line. i think they expect him to roll over and play dead. that is not the way things work in this town. he won the election. and he told the american people we were going to raise the rates on the top income earners. now that is what he is trying to do. i think there is some give here. i don't think it has to go up to 39.6. right now it's 35. maybe it goes up a point or two. listen, republicans need time to sort through all of this. there will be a short-term agreement. there will be a down payment with some increased taxes. some increased budget cuts. then there will be a framework for next year. i think they will reach a deal next year. i don't think it's easy. but listen, this is all what politics is about. no one gets everything. you have a negotiation. that is what is going on now. negotiation. >> eric: when you say you thin
it will. talk about what is going on now here first. you know, the president won the election. he campaigned on the basis of higher rates for the taxpayer income earners. no surprise. the republicans are asking shocked that the president is taking a tough line. i think they expect him to roll over and play dead. that is not the way things work in this town. he won the election. and he told the american people we were going to raise the rates on the top income earners. now that is what he is...
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here is why, the republicans came out right after the election and said to the president, you want revenue here. you want revenue on the wealthy, we'll give it to you, limiting tax deductions for the wealthy. the president instead of taking that and running with tceiling a deal has been campaigning for tax hikes and to cap it off sent treasury secretary tim geithner to congress with this outrageous proposal as basically a compilation of everything that the president wanted in his budget and beyond what he even campaigned for. as a result i think most republicans wonder how serious he is about doing this. they feel things are going backward. >> paul: yeah, that, that's the way it sounds to me, too, i talked to some senior republicans this week and they're increasingly of the belief that maybe the president wants to back them into a corner, that could push them over the cliff and then be able to blame them if you have a recession or for taxes going up on everybody. >> well, i don't doubt that's what he's trying to do. it's hard to see where the upside is for the president if the econ
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. >> what's the biggest proposal you put on the table since the election in terms of raising revenue from closing loopholes and deductions? >> there's a lot of ways to get there, but you could cap deductions at a percent of income. that would be one way to get there. you could eliminate deductions for the wealthiest. >> let me ask you a couple specifics. would you limit the home mortgage deduction? >> there are a lot of options. i'm not going to debate this. >> really? not going to debate this? so he specifically did not say no on the home mortgage deduction. didn't do that. that's the biggest write off that middle class americans have. nor any specifics on loopholes. give us just one loophole, mr. boehner. can't you get one? our tax code is how many thousands of pages and you can't give us one loophole? well, on tv and on paper, republicans refuse to offer details about just how they are going to get all this revenue. timothy geithner explained by the republicans can't sell the specifics of their plan. >> if republicans would like to go beyond these reforms, they should tell us how
. >> what's the biggest proposal you put on the table since the election in terms of raising revenue from closing loopholes and deductions? >> there's a lot of ways to get there, but you could cap deductions at a percent of income. that would be one way to get there. you could eliminate deductions for the wealthiest. >> let me ask you a couple specifics. would you limit the home mortgage deduction? >> there are a lot of options. i'm not going to debate this. >>...
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not elected to raise either rates or revenues. they were elected as a check and balance against president obama's reckless deficits and his reckless debt. they were elected to stop the explosive growth of government. the republicans were elected and sent to washington to fight for limited government, balanced budgets, and of course, greater liberty for all the american people. at this moment it seems like they are only offering a democratic light version for america. maybe they need to learn a thing or two from president obama. maybe they need to show a willingness to go over the so-called fiscal cliff. now, if the president really wants to take the country there, maybe they need to let him go there. here's the bottom line. what are we hearing from the white house? we're hearing the president will not negotiate unless taxes are raised on job creators, and we're hearing that the president now wants to seize control of the debt ceiling from congress. well, that means rather than needing the approval of the house was the senate to raise the nation's spending limit, president barack
not elected to raise either rates or revenues. they were elected as a check and balance against president obama's reckless deficits and his reckless debt. they were elected to stop the explosive growth of government. the republicans were elected and sent to washington to fight for limited government, balanced budgets, and of course, greater liberty for all the american people. at this moment it seems like they are only offering a democratic light version for america. maybe they need to learn a...
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little bit. we had an election, thomas, where americans had a clear choice and they chose and we need to make sure that we think a balanced approach that is fair, that doesn't throw the middle class under the bus and that works mathematically. so far what we've seen from republicans in the house does not work in terms of reducing the deficit. >> congresswoman, we are watching the president on our screen at the business roundtable. there was an issue with the poll microphone for the president's address so they've handed him a different microphone, the leaders inside this room can hear exactly what the president is saying but his audio is too low for us to be able to share it with everybody. we're still working on that. when we see and hear about the fact this two-step plan getting something done for the middle class by the end of the year, does this set up the scenario we live in a perpetual state of fiscal cliff loopness, this is the same old dog and pony show every six months to a year fighting over the same things and not big, bold leadership? >> i hope not, certainly if it's not left
little bit. we had an election, thomas, where americans had a clear choice and they chose and we need to make sure that we think a balanced approach that is fair, that doesn't throw the middle class under the bus and that works mathematically. so far what we've seen from republicans in the house does not work in terms of reducing the deficit. >> congresswoman, we are watching the president on our screen at the business roundtable. there was an issue with the poll microphone for the...
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during the election. >> exactly. these are savings, about a third of which were reducing the subsidy for insurance companies providing medicare advantage programs and the rest of them pretty much cut to providers and we didn't reduce services. we expanded some while leaving money over the long term and the cbo said the affordable care act will save $1.2 trillion. again, we need to be careful what we do with the medicare portion of the social safety net because we've actually made some significant changes that have yet to play out. >> all right. thank you very much, sir. we greatly appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. >> now, ab stoddard, erin mcpike and keith boykin. a.b. let's start with you. let's read what senator demint and senator paul had to say about the proposal of boehner and the republicans. the $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. if neither party leadership puts forward a serious plan, we should end this charade. ran paul says, one party proposes $800 billion in tax increases to counter them and continue to be the low tax small government party. the other pa
during the election. >> exactly. these are savings, about a third of which were reducing the subsidy for insurance companies providing medicare advantage programs and the rest of them pretty much cut to providers and we didn't reduce services. we expanded some while leaving money over the long term and the cbo said the affordable care act will save $1.2 trillion. again, we need to be careful what we do with the medicare portion of the social safety net because we've actually made some...
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president in the bloomberg interview, which is the first interview since the election, it seemed that perhaps he was prepped to make an overture on the insistence to raise tacks on the top 2%. did i hear wrong or read it wrong? that this demand is a temporary demand? >> reporter: yes, it does seem like there's a little wriggle room. jay carney was asked about this and didn't want to get nailed down. the answer that you get from jay carney is he doesn't want to negotiate these kinds of things in public. but it does appear that the president created a little bit of wriggle room. are they negotiating? are there some phone calls or e-mails going back and forth, something that's happening behind the scenes that we're not seeing behind the cameras? and i just heard from a gop aide who tells me that nothing has changed from yesterday. there's still no phone calls, no e-mails, no communication ongoing from behind the scenes even though the white house says that the conversations continue. it's very difficult to see how this ball will get moved down the field if they are not talking. >> o
president in the bloomberg interview, which is the first interview since the election, it seemed that perhaps he was prepped to make an overture on the insistence to raise tacks on the top 2%. did i hear wrong or read it wrong? that this demand is a temporary demand? >> reporter: yes, it does seem like there's a little wriggle room. jay carney was asked about this and didn't want to get nailed down. the answer that you get from jay carney is he doesn't want to negotiate these kinds of...
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presidential campaign? >> it is not too early. all the way back in 1992, on election day day itself, it was jack kemp who is talking about 1996. we were watching that campaign. last night was the second annual awards in his name. the first award dinner went to paul ryan last year, and this year, the recipient must marco rubio. from the outset, both of these guys mentioned seeing each other on the campaign trail over the course of the last year. marco rubio held over 80 rally events and they expect to see each other in the early voting states. >> i will see you at the reunion. dinner, table for two. [laughter] >> thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire, but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. [laughter] greg: south carolina voted third in the nominating process. both of them obviously joking about it. marco rubio has visited ohio and iowa since the election day. it is on. jenna: either you are to have a couple of diners that you could recommend if they are looking for referrals. there is so much talk about the future of the gop. we ju
presidential campaign? >> it is not too early. all the way back in 1992, on election day day itself, it was jack kemp who is talking about 1996. we were watching that campaign. last night was the second annual awards in his name. the first award dinner went to paul ryan last year, and this year, the recipient must marco rubio. from the outset, both of these guys mentioned seeing each other on the campaign trail over the course of the last year. marco rubio held over 80 rally events and...
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his re-election, and she's a monster to work with. are those not diplomatic characteristics that we'd welcome in someone who goes to london as our ambassador? i'm joking, obviously. megyn: well, you list the accurate, you know, the stuff you said about her is reportedly true. i mean, she's notorious for being difficult to work with and so on. but all the presidents do this. this is what they all do. if you raise a lot of money for me and i'm running for president, you're going to be an ambassador. that's half the reason people do it. >> however, president obama back in '08 when he first became president, he said he was going to appoint more professionals with diplomatic experience to the service. since then he has appointed 59 ambassadors, 40 of which have no diplomatic experience -- megyn: but she is, she is half british. >> so what? [laughter] megyn: that is a fulfillment of his promise. >> wait a minute, she might be up for ambassador not just to england, but to france. megyn: oh. >> i suppose being british is a good qualification to send her to beat up on the french. megyn: w
his re-election, and she's a monster to work with. are those not diplomatic characteristics that we'd welcome in someone who goes to london as our ambassador? i'm joking, obviously. megyn: well, you list the accurate, you know, the stuff you said about her is reportedly true. i mean, she's notorious for being difficult to work with and so on. but all the presidents do this. this is what they all do. if you raise a lot of money for me and i'm running for president, you're going to be an...
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raise taxes. i won election. i didn't run on raising taxes on anybody. i have a mandate as well. gerri: all right, thank you, and should congress and president stay in washington until the cliff is resolved? log on, vote, and i'll share the results at the end of the show. put them in a room, lock the door, throw away the key. it's a thought. with negotiations stalled, thous out of town, going over the cliff? let's did douglas holtz-eakin, the former cbo director. doug, the house is gone. they are on vacation. how did the people leave? we have the biggest fiscal crisis of i don't know how long, something to do something about it? it's one thing to have a big recession. it's another thing when the problem is of your own creation, and you turn your back on it. what do you make of this? >> well, it's a very dangerous situation. if we go over the cliff, the taxes go up $39 # -- $395 billion, spending slashed, a plunging economy, a recipe for a recession, something no american needs to hear about now. getting past the fiscal cliff is an imperative. we are having a one-sided conversation. the
raise taxes. i won election. i didn't run on raising taxes on anybody. i have a mandate as well. gerri: all right, thank you, and should congress and president stay in washington until the cliff is resolved? log on, vote, and i'll share the results at the end of the show. put them in a room, lock the door, throw away the key. it's a thought. with negotiations stalled, thous out of town, going over the cliff? let's did douglas holtz-eakin, the former cbo director. doug, the house is gone. they...
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can't be serious. i just never seen anything like it. you know, we got seven weeks between election day and the end the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> it's clear he's not pleased from his ha. is the president in danger of going too far? >> no. i think that everyone is amazed that president obama is pursuing an absolutely normal approach to negotiation. people over the last two years got so accustomed to his strategy of almost preemptive concession, you know, you don't like this, i'll give you more. i'll give you more. what obama did is say look here's what i want. this will solve the problem in my view and by the way we still don't have a recovery that's going quickly enough, we still need to goose the economy some. and the republicans are flabbergasted that he's not already making concessions and all he's asking for is okay guys, you say we don't have to raise the top rate, show me how you're going to do it with all these deductions many of which by the way are popular. you want more medicare cuts show me what you want and i think this i
can't be serious. i just never seen anything like it. you know, we got seven weeks between election day and the end the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> it's clear he's not pleased from his ha. is the president in danger of going too far? >> no. i think that everyone is amazed that president obama is pursuing an absolutely normal approach to negotiation. people over the last two years got so accustomed to his strategy of almost...
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-election. >> eric: we voted for obama. quid pro quo. can you talk to me about that comment? >> kimberly: the problem is they are suffering. what do they do to help detroit except for michael moore fleecing and taking the cash out of it. it's a mockery of the situation. job market there, the economy. it's depressed. >> dana: the point of the election and swing state of michigan is president obama saved michigan and the auto industry in detroit because of his actions to bail him out. at least she is honest about what they are looking for. they are not honest about the problem. >> bob: pall ryan fleeced left and right. >> dana: you are hilarious. >> greg: i was hoping this was bacon. i thought they were bringing bacon home. i was depressed -- >> kimberly: you like bacon. >> greg: everybody got bacon instead of money it would be a better place. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, three stories that you will not believe the real story behind the shoeless nan the photo that made national headlines. atheists won a battle in the war on christmas taking down charlie brown. nudists in the califor
-election. >> eric: we voted for obama. quid pro quo. can you talk to me about that comment? >> kimberly: the problem is they are suffering. what do they do to help detroit except for michael moore fleecing and taking the cash out of it. it's a mockery of the situation. job market there, the economy. it's depressed. >> dana: the point of the election and swing state of michigan is president obama saved michigan and the auto industry in detroit because of his actions to bail...
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, $136,000 household in debt. this is about getting re-elec re-elected. i want to say something quickly about the simpsons. it's dangerous to trivialize what is going on. simpson, if we go up the fiscal cliff simpsons are hit the hardest. the taxes go up 9,000%. writers of the simpson, the taxes will skyrocket. this isn't a joke. >> bob: you are right. but this is not going to happen. there is adjustment to social security. real cuts. >> eric: you know what -- >> bob: can i say something? >> eric: you add ornaments to add things. in obama added this little thing the other day. he said i don't want a debt ceiling or bound like it going for it. debt doesn't matter. >> bob: respond to the social security thing. >> eric: obama in october of 2008 before he was president obama. season. >> the way bush has done it, over the last eight years is to take out a credit cardback of china in the game of the children, driving up the national debt. that is irresponsible and unpatriotic. >> eric: unpatriotic. $5 trillion in debt. president obama will add ten, 11, 12 trillion in debt. when he is
, $136,000 household in debt. this is about getting re-elec re-elected. i want to say something quickly about the simpsons. it's dangerous to trivialize what is going on. simpson, if we go up the fiscal cliff simpsons are hit the hardest. the taxes go up 9,000%. writers of the simpson, the taxes will skyrocket. this isn't a joke. >> bob: you are right. but this is not going to happen. there is adjustment to social security. real cuts. >> eric: you know what -- >> bob: can i...
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and his constituents. there is not a single republican who campaigned on the theme that if elected i'll raise your taxes $800 billion. every single -- >> and make it about spending. >> and every single republican who ran for congress vowed to his constituents to hold the line on taxes and to fight to reduce spending. this just isn't honoring that. >> let's speak of grover e runs america for tax reform, doesn't believe in tax increases but the media, he's not elected, why would anyone listen to them? watch this. >> speaking of the fiscal cliff there's been all the focus on one dangerous man who stands in the way that to avert it, grover norquist. he is hereto elected nor has he ever run for office so why is washington so scared of him? >> it's also politically smart to cut the knees out from under grover norquist. this guy, who is he? >> one dangerous man, cut the knees out from under him? because he gave candidates an opportunity to sign a tax pledge. they signed it. >> two quick points. number one, a person who stands in the way of a victory by the left is a dangerous man by defin
and his constituents. there is not a single republican who campaigned on the theme that if elected i'll raise your taxes $800 billion. every single -- >> and make it about spending. >> and every single republican who ran for congress vowed to his constituents to hold the line on taxes and to fight to reduce spending. this just isn't honoring that. >> let's speak of grover e runs america for tax reform, doesn't believe in tax increases but the media, he's not elected, why...
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, four out of five states, the people have chose on the either vote themselves or their elected representatives to stake with traditional marriage. >> reporter: for paul and jeff, the supreme court decision is personal. they launched the challenge to prop 8 seeking the right to marry. >> sometimes the court system needs to nudge us forward to be a better, more united america. >> reporter: the court could rule in a way that impacts same- sex marriage only in california and does not affect the rest of the country. >> movements are a mix of things and you have to kind of take the ups with the downs. >> reporter: the court will hear the marriage cases in march. a decision will probably come by the end of june. john blackstone, cbs news, san francisco. >> pelley: john, thank you. the court also said today it will hear a second case on same- sex marriage. that case is a challenge to the current law that denies married same-sex couples the same federal benefits as other married couples. we checked with the census bureau today and they told us there are just over 600,000 same-sex couple
, four out of five states, the people have chose on the either vote themselves or their elected representatives to stake with traditional marriage. >> reporter: for paul and jeff, the supreme court decision is personal. they launched the challenge to prop 8 seeking the right to marry. >> sometimes the court system needs to nudge us forward to be a better, more united america. >> reporter: the court could rule in a way that impacts same- sex marriage only in california and does...
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should be able to get married. >> reporter: on election day last month, voters approved gay marriage at the ballot box for the first time, after dozens of defeats, when maine, maryland and washington state legalized it. but now, it all comes down to the nine justices of the supreme court, and they are generally conservative on social issues, though they're closely divided. for opponents of gay marriage, the very fabric of our society is at stake. >> the fundamental reason why marriage is treated as a public institution rather than a purely private relationship is because it serves the interest of society and the interest of children. >> reporter: edie windsor thinks it's simpler than all that. if you could talk to the supreme court as they consider this case, what would you tell them? >> it's a marriage that anyone would want, okay, gay or straight. we had a wonderful life together. >> and terry, right here again. so, when will the court rule on this and do you have any sense at all which may they may go? >> reporter: so they've got two cases here, edie's and one out of cali
should be able to get married. >> reporter: on election day last month, voters approved gay marriage at the ballot box for the first time, after dozens of defeats, when maine, maryland and washington state legalized it. but now, it all comes down to the nine justices of the supreme court, and they are generally conservative on social issues, though they're closely divided. for opponents of gay marriage, the very fabric of our society is at stake. >> the fundamental reason why...
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continuation of hirs campaign. he thinks he won it. >> president obama has been re-elected. >> to get a deal done, you're going to have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. >> the one thing the republicans have going for them is they're leaning on erskine bowles. >> i heard what you were saying. you know nothing of my work. you mean my whole fallacy is wrong. >> i'm happy to be flexible. i recognize i'm not going to get 100%. ♪ >> it certainly 'tis the season and whether you're counting the days to the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, christmas day, or judgment day, there's much to do and not much time to do it. as for us, we're counting down the minutes to house speaker john boehner who will be lighting the capitol christmas tree 234 just about an hour. if you're among the wealthiest of americans, then, boy, does boehner have a gift wrapped for you. in republicans' counteroffer to avert the fiscal cliff, the rich get to keep their bush era tax cuts, even as the boehner budget slashes $1.2 trillion in spending, half of it from medicare, medicaid, and other social programs. it is a
continuation of hirs campaign. he thinks he won it. >> president obama has been re-elected. >> to get a deal done, you're going to have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. >> the one thing the republicans have going for them is they're leaning on erskine bowles. >> i heard what you were saying. you know nothing of my work. you mean my whole fallacy is wrong. >> i'm happy to be flexible. i recognize i'm not going to get 100%. ♪ >> it certainly 'tis the...
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ages, the big surprise. we have nine states that have done it. in this past election, which i think is pivotal, four states did it completely by popular vote. no court ruling on rights, just public will. >> for the first time in 40 years in four states thanks to the efforts of chad and a lot of other people, for the first time there was a populist vote, and the people spoke. they have never spoken in favor before, but there are really two ways. it's also equal protection under the law and also that the court has found it to be a fundamental right. this is an extraordinary, extraordinary time, and -- >> let's cut this in two. there's two questions here. one is doma, the defense of marriage act. this administration will not defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases around the country where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender? chad, on that. what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay person who is marri
ages, the big surprise. we have nine states that have done it. in this past election, which i think is pivotal, four states did it completely by popular vote. no court ruling on rights, just public will. >> for the first time in 40 years in four states thanks to the efforts of chad and a lot of other people, for the first time there was a populist vote, and the people spoke. they have never spoken in favor before, but there are really two ways. it's also equal protection under the law...
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election, and if you talk to folks at the white house, they don't view it as a status quo election. they thought what they had was a huge victory, and they are just -- if you're flying at 35,000 feet, you see the difference between both of them here is babe e boehner is like our margins in the house, you know, we still have a sense of clout. democrats are saying we increased our clout. this offer is meant by boehner to say the first one from geithner was the white house's position was the white house budget. we could have come back with the house gop budget. we're trying to do something that's middle ground. but the white house does not believe it was a status quo election. they believe they were handed a resounding victory. >> absolutely. nbc's luke russert. thanks so much. let's get right to our panel now. msnbc contributor ari melber is with me in the studio, and democratic strategist julian epstein joins us from washington. speaker boehner today hold reporters the president is in la la land. then he presents a counteroffer based on the mythical dynamic scoring system that saves
election, and if you talk to folks at the white house, they don't view it as a status quo election. they thought what they had was a huge victory, and they are just -- if you're flying at 35,000 feet, you see the difference between both of them here is babe e boehner is like our margins in the house, you know, we still have a sense of clout. democrats are saying we increased our clout. this offer is meant by boehner to say the first one from geithner was the white house's position was the...
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election is start to set in on members of the republican party. republican senator jim demint of south carolina is leaving capitol hill to become president of the heritage foundation. don't cry for demint. the out-going president of the heritage foundation made $1.1 million according to 2010 tax filings. demint will do just fine. it's not just about the money. the senator realizes he could be more effective for the conservative movement if he's not attached to the dysfunctional party known as the republican party. in a statement, demint said "i'm leaving the senate now but i'm not leaving the fight. i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas." he was more to the point on cnn earlier today. >> this will give me the opportunity to help take our case to the american people and to translate our policies into real ideas. >> so you think you could be more influential within the conservative movement as the leader of the heritage foundation as opposed to a united states senator? >> there's no quest
election is start to set in on members of the republican party. republican senator jim demint of south carolina is leaving capitol hill to become president of the heritage foundation. don't cry for demint. the out-going president of the heritage foundation made $1.1 million according to 2010 tax filings. demint will do just fine. it's not just about the money. the senator realizes he could be more effective for the conservative movement if he's not attached to the dysfunctional party known as...
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the house. now he gets re-elected with less strength, not against a war hero but a guy from massachusetts, and the republicans have the house and he thinks somebody made him king and he's going to have more taxes, more spending, and more regulations. it's a real problem for him. he doesn't have the mandate he thinks he does. so i think he takes us over the cliff because he doesn't -- he's got blinders on. he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> okay. there are a couple things to unpack here. i want to go back to this question -- i think what i'm confused about is this kind of game of smoke and mirrors that seems to be playing out on the right. and i ask you again, is closing a loophole and ending a deduction the same thing as raising taxes? >> you have to look at the whole package. i mean i would think if you're going to -- and the other key thing here is, anybody -- >> is that a no? >> you have to -- first you have to look at the whole package and find out what's in it. to sit here and shoot at negotiating strategies and offers -- >> i know. i'm asking about a ba
the house. now he gets re-elected with less strength, not against a war hero but a guy from massachusetts, and the republicans have the house and he thinks somebody made him king and he's going to have more taxes, more spending, and more regulations. it's a real problem for him. he doesn't have the mandate he thinks he does. so i think he takes us over the cliff because he doesn't -- he's got blinders on. he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> okay. there are a couple things...
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election day and the end of the year, and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> treasury secretary tim geithner appeared on five separate sunday morning talk shows. he says it's the gop who have been short on specifics. >> we said how and how much and who should pay. they haven't proposed what they think. >> joining me now is california congressman karen bass. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me on, tamron. >> let me start off with a question on twitter already posed to the president, and it was what are you willing to compromise to get the fiscal cliff done? what's your answer to that question? >> i think, first of all, many compromises have been done. for example, in the cuts issues there's been over a trillion dollars of cuts. i think democrats have demonstrated over and over again we're willing to compromise and willing to make more compromises, but it's the republicans now that need to come to the table and counter the proposal that the president put forward last week. >> part of the counter of what some republicans hope is a divide withi
election day and the end of the year, and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> treasury secretary tim geithner appeared on five separate sunday morning talk shows. he says it's the gop who have been short on specifics. >> we said how and how much and who should pay. they haven't proposed what they think. >> joining me now is california congressman karen bass. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me on, tamron. >>...
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interview since the election and the fiscal cliff face off. he reiterated that lying in the sand is higher taxes for the wealthy. he gave republicans some room to maneuver. >> the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlemented ientitlements i'm prepared to make, we have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. we're not getting a deal without it. understand the reason for that. it's not me being stubborn or partisan, it's a matter of math. >> and the gop plan, which was unveiled yesterday, includes $800 bill onin new taxes made through closing loopholes and deductions and not raising rates. compare that to the president's plan and that's about half of what the white house asked for. republicans propose 600 billion in entitlement saving including raising the medicare requirement to 67, nearly twice what the white house called for. the gop plan changes how social security benefits are calculated, something addressed under t
interview since the election and the fiscal cliff face off. he reiterated that lying in the sand is higher taxes for the wealthy. he gave republicans some room to maneuver. >> the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlemented ientitlements i'm prepared to make, we have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. we're not...
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. don't know whether you are ready to start thinking about america's next presidential election. a new poll shows who people say they would back to succeed president obama. also, we'll show you how a couple of possible republic candidates are already putting together the framework for 2016. >> the old ways won't do. we need new thinking and renewed efforts from all americans. >> big government is not effective government. big government has never worked. >> you will see how two potential presidential hopefuls are laying out their vision for their party's future, that's next. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank, the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates
. don't know whether you are ready to start thinking about america's next presidential election. a new poll shows who people say they would back to succeed president obama. also, we'll show you how a couple of possible republic candidates are already putting together the framework for 2016. >> the old ways won't do. we need new thinking and renewed efforts from all americans. >> big government is not effective government. big government has never worked. >> you will see how...
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election we just watched. a new report shows how much money was spent. last minute donations pushing it over the $2 billion mark. so 2012 the first election where super pacs flourished drawing unlimited funds from wealthy donors. tens of millions of dollars were raised in the final weeks alone. we don't know how much was raised for nonprofit groups that an issue ads but did not have to reveal donors. martha: a lot of money. a lot of money. >>> there are new developments in a terror case we've been following in florida. two pakistani-born brothers due in federal court at the top of this hour. they're charged with aiding terrorists and plotting to obtain a weapon of mass destruction. the fbi says this was not a sting operation. if convicted both of these men could face life in prison. phil keating live outside in the courthouse where this is playing out today in fourth lauderdale, florida. phil, these men are being held without bond, right? >> reporter: that's correct, martha. they are since last week once the federal grand jury indicted these two brothers on these very substantial terror
election we just watched. a new report shows how much money was spent. last minute donations pushing it over the $2 billion mark. so 2012 the first election where super pacs flourished drawing unlimited funds from wealthy donors. tens of millions of dollars were raised in the final weeks alone. we don't know how much was raised for nonprofit groups that an issue ads but did not have to reveal donors. martha: a lot of money. a lot of money. >>> there are new developments in a terror...
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behind the nation's first de democratically elected president. >> where is president morsi? >> no one knows for sure. he's in an undisclosed location, so to speak. >> as the sun rises in cairo, it will rise in a couple hours. what's the expectation? what's your prediction that will happen during the day? >> well, so far it seems like both sides want to avoid any large scale outbreaks of violence. they think it's going to make both of them look bad. however, the ra rank-and-file members of both organizations are very angry. one muslim brotherhood member, a teenage muslim brother hood member died earlier last week. he was beaten to death by a mob and two se seculars have been killed by police. there's a potential for large scale violence. >> jacob, thank you. in just a few minutes, we'll talk more about the increasingly volatile situation in egypt. first, who is now accusing the president of thinking he is the king? >> obama overplayed his hand. he thinks somebody made him king. >> right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership
behind the nation's first de democratically elected president. >> where is president morsi? >> no one knows for sure. he's in an undisclosed location, so to speak. >> as the sun rises in cairo, it will rise in a couple hours. what's the expectation? what's your prediction that will happen during the day? >> well, so far it seems like both sides want to avoid any large scale outbreaks of violence. they think it's going to make both of them look bad. however, the ra...
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well. >>> new campaign finance filings show the 2012 presidential election was the most expensive in history. tally put the cost at $2 billion which includes $86 million raised by mitt romney. a computer glitch delayed, president obama's final number, "the washington post" reports. the spokesman says that the president raised $1.1 billion. >> think what else the money could have gone toward in the tight times. >>> despite loud objections, republicans in michigan managed to push right to work measures through the legislature. hundred of union supporters protested. some who tried storming the senate chamber, were pepper sprayed. the legislation bans unions from requiring nonunion employees to pay fees. supporters say the move will add jobs, opponents though say it weakens unions, and harms workers. >>> and speak of labor issue, it ain't looking good for a dl ealo end the nhl lockout. the players union chief held two news conferences last night first to say there was progress in major issue. in the second, hejected everyth union offered. there is no drop dead date to start the season. b
well. >>> new campaign finance filings show the 2012 presidential election was the most expensive in history. tally put the cost at $2 billion which includes $86 million raised by mitt romney. a computer glitch delayed, president obama's final number, "the washington post" reports. the spokesman says that the president raised $1.1 billion. >> think what else the money could have gone toward in the tight times. >>> despite loud objections, republicans in...
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clip before you came in, he actually sued the administration before the election saying that we have reason to believe that they are getting ready to unleash epa regulations after the election and we have the right to know what they are now. here is an october 22 issue that we are fighting an administration that has no regard for the rule of law in my humble opinion. whatsoever. it will continue to push the edge of the envelope. this is why more than anything else obama needs to be defeated and these people need to be thrown out of office.e is not hh that. but they say we can't do anything about global warming or missions that people appear to care about. so what is barack obama to do the. megyn: frankly, i am a not exactly a great fan of mark. there is no purpose of whining about president obama having been reelected. but the point being -- do something about it. we are a nation blessed with sufficient talk. right now the republican party has every opportunity to stand up and lead on this issue. they have been quiet and quiet since. megyn: [talking over each other] megyn: what
clip before you came in, he actually sued the administration before the election saying that we have reason to believe that they are getting ready to unleash epa regulations after the election and we have the right to know what they are now. here is an october 22 issue that we are fighting an administration that has no regard for the rule of law in my humble opinion. whatsoever. it will continue to push the edge of the envelope. this is why more than anything else obama needs to be defeated...